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Posted: 28 December 2009 03:53 PM   [ Ignore ]  
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im new to all this electric malarky normally i hit harder to be louder.
ive blown mty pm10 to smithereens and im not sure what to do next.
we have a BIG gig in jan at a football club.
any ideas from you clever people?

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Posted: 28 December 2009 06:27 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]  
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Hi,

Can you not Di the kit into the pa?

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Posted: 28 December 2009 08:00 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]  
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tried that and got too much bass then couldnt get levels right for high hats
i think ive got a ferrari drum kit and im used to a 1.1 corsa!

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Posted: 28 December 2009 08:21 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]  
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I think the PM-10 (Personal Monitor?) isn’t designed to fill a club.

If your looking for more ‘humph’ for monitoring in a live environment, then a reasonably large keyboard amp will be required as they are designed for ‘full range’ signals.

You will need to use your main sound system for best results, and as you’ve a TD-20 it might be worth using the separate outs into a sub-mixer so you can control each element of the sound your after live.
If you are using an engineer out front, and if you have the spare channels on your desk and/or multi-core, then sending a separate mix of; kick, snare, toms, and cymbals will make his/her life easier. Yes stereo is nice, but it’s not used much live, if you’ve lots of spare channels, there’s nothing to stop you running some of the stuff in stereo.

I work as a live sound engineer, and even though the kit is acoustic, it’s still sent to the sound system.

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Posted: 29 December 2009 07:39 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]  
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many thanks for your input.
i think i should have thought about additional costs before i got kit.
i may have to sell other body parts now.

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Posted: 29 December 2009 01:45 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]  
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Before you cut off an arm, have you thought about using the PM30 system for your stage monitor? You can use the headphone output directly to the PM30 input1 (it’s designed to take it. This will allopws you to add bass into the local sound using the onboard EQ (PM30) whilst you roll off some of the bass on the TD20 module effects loop. The main outs can still be connected to your PA system, and you could use a FX send from the PA desk to send back all the other sounds going through the PA to your monitor (without the drums sound) so you can moniotr it too. This would allow you to control the volume of all the other parts relative to the drum volume.

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Posted: 30 December 2009 07:30 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]  
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many thanks for your reply john. my local music store advised me of the cost of a pm30 and that was a bit more than i had hoped for after selling my wife to buy the td20kx.
i suppose it makes no sense having the kit if im not getting the most from it without spending more to get it amped properly.
if you have a spare pm30 in the back let me know, before i have to toss a coin to choose which arm.

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Posted: 30 December 2009 10:15 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]  
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Hi Matt,

I can’t believe you sold your wife to buy the TD20!!! It amazes me that people don’t realise the value of a simple hire these days. [tongue firmly in cheek!]

Anyway I have a PM30 in the back, not quite going spare; but if you can cross my palm with £539.00 cash money, you can have it all new and lovely, boxed! It makes sense to get the correct thing for the job!

Now one last piece of advice. Don’t go selling an arm. I think you’ll find you need that for your chosen hobby/profession. A kidney will suffice. Most of us have 2, and can live without one of them.

All the very best for the New Year!

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Posted: 30 December 2009 11:51 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]  
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to be honest i didnt get much for her,but at least i can practice more in the living room.
if you can have pm30 to me by saturday then im off to the vets to get kidney out!
just tell me how you want money, i presume nothing any bigger than a twenty!

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Posted: 30 December 2009 12:26 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]  
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Hi Matt,

Would you give me a call on 01412040566 to organise this please? I can take cash cheques, cards, bribes, vice, or ginger bottles.

Cheers

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Posted: 30 December 2009 12:30 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]  
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Hi Matt,

I should have said I can get it to you tomorrow, by our courier.

Regards

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Posted: 30 December 2009 02:40 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]  
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green shield stamps?

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Posted: 30 December 2009 02:44 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]  
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Hi Matt,

Only if you phone me before 3pm as we’ll miss the courier otherwise, and this is the last day to get it out to you before Saturday.

Cheers!

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Posted: 30 December 2009 02:48 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]  
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ok final offer green shield stamps and my complete hard back collection of asterix books!

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Posted: 30 December 2009 03:23 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 14 ]  
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Hi Matt,

Thank you very much for your business and humour! I hope you enjoy your new monitors. I have preregistered them with Roland for your 3 year warranty. I have set the warranty to start on Tuesday, to ensure you don’t miss out on a few days!

I am now off to get my nose into some Asterix!

Happy New Year

John

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Posted: 30 December 2009 04:51 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 15 ]  
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many thanks john happy new year to you to.
by the way will a selection of toes get me an extra cymbal and stand?

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