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anyone tell me where i can get the computer cable for the jv1010

thanks mike

Go to the CPC web site:

http://cpc.farnell.com/

Type in this into the product search box:

AV02944 (0=zero, not an O)

If you click on the technical information it mentions that it comes with drivers for Korg, Roland, & Yamaha (but doesn't mention for what OS). This suggests it's the right lead for the job.
Hopefully you have drivers already for the JV-1010

thanks 4 ure help
mike

by the way before i get this cable - do u kno if there is there such a thing as usb to mini din that would work.i can use the serial to din on laptop but dont have a serial on my desktop - is there such a thing as an adaptor or a usb to din that would work. sorry to get complicated.

mike

There is possibly a serial interface connection on the mother-board.
I current PC had such and arrangement, but it came with a PCI plate with the 'normal' serial port, and then a lead plugged straight into the mo-bo.

I don't think you'll find a mini Din to USB connector, and even if you do, there would be a 'driver' issue.
I wouldn't even go the serial-to-USB adapter route.

A USB-to-MIDI interface (not those cheap ones!) would be my alternate route...

thanks again for advice. i know ime firing a lot of questions but am on a learnin curve.

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i can understand that for my laptop with a serial port that i can use the mini din to serial connector as i assume that the mini din on the module will both send to and receive from the laptop.

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but for my desktop pc without a serial port - if i went usb to midi route ime not sure of what cable set up i would use to enable me to both send to and receive from the pc without switching ports.

i know i can record to pc using midi out keyboard to midi in module and midi out module to pc.
and to play back from pc .. usb pc to midi in module.

but how would i be able to both record to and playback from pc without switching cables
thanks mike

mikeconnectuk - 05 May 2010 11:12 PM

thanks again for advice. i know ime firing a lot of questions but am on a learnin curve.

No problem, I will endeavour to try and answer then if I can.

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i can understand that for my laptop with a serial port that i can use the mini din to serial connector as i assume that the mini din on the module will both send to and receive from the laptop.

Yep, it's more or less direct MIDI connection. Instruments tend to use a direct USB connection now, and still need some form of driver. (Each time Microsoft launch a new OS, users want drivers for their stuff)

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but for my desktop pc without a serial port - if i went usb to midi route ime not sure of what cable set up i would use to enable me to both send to and receive from the pc without switching ports.
i know i can record to pc using midi out keyboard to midi in module and midi out module to pc.
and to play back from pc .. usb pc to midi in module.

but how would i be able to both record to and playback from pc without switching cables
thanks mike

Easily solved, go for an interface that has multiple ports.
I started with a 1 in : 1 out on my Amiga (remember them):
Out from keyboard to MIDI in of interface.
Out from interface to MIDI in of keyboard.
MIDI thru of keyboard to next device. (a Roland MT-32 at the time)
As I added additional MIDI instruments I added a MDI patchbay to allow control over routing of MIDI signals, and to allow merging of MIDI signals. I only had 16 MIDI channels at my disposal.
When I switched to PC (still not sure I did the right thing) I had a 2 in, and 4 out interface. The patchbay is still used, but some instruments ran on a separate port, this allowed run up to 64 separate MIDI channels, but I only really ran about half that.
I'm currently running with 8 in, 8 out unit.
This again allows more instruments to run on each separate port, so I don't have to worry about arranging MIDI channels so one instrument isn't play over the top of another running the same MIDI channel on that port.
If I wanted to, I could run 128 separate MIDI channels.

For the laptop I've a midiman 2 in 2 out which pops into my lappy bag, and I can carry with me when I'm out live. I use it to back-up the keys on stage, plus a drum module.

I don't know how much MIDI kit you have, or intend to have.
At the moment it sounds as if a simple 2 in 2 out unit will suffice, but what if you expand and add additional MIDI instruments?

thanks again for your advice. ile abrsorb the info at weeken when my heads not full of work. ime only doin this stuff for home use. thankgod says the public
not sure ile need to increase midi gear as long as i can suss how to run drum patterns in a loop thatl do me. ive not set up sofware yet so assume i can run drum loops from that.Icant see if there are any ready made drum pattern/loops on the module.
that another part of my learnin curve.

The AMiga thats what started me off on this kind of stuff - playin crude samples through octamed software but great fun at the time.

20 years have passed and ive got the bug again - i think once ive sussed how to get the drums sorted - and got the cables - ile b on my way.

thanks

mike

There are no drum loops within the JV-1010, but there are drum sounds.
Some of the SR-JV80 expansion boards do contain a few loops.
Most use samplers, or sample playback programs within their computers to do this.

You can program a drum pattern using the sounds within the 1010, simular to how you would if using a drum machine as a source of drum sounds. Depending on your programming skills it might be convincing enough to sound loop like.

look like ile b buyin a new midi keyboard. this ole casio only has midi in and midi out only small keyboard any way so my hands keep bumpin in to each other so time to buy.

thanks 4 all ure advice

mike

Is there a sequencing software u would recommend that shows the 1010s patch names as they are on the module. And would any such software save and play the 1010 patch settings you chose when composing and reloading a song.

Until I get such software I am using Midisoft studio which doesnt seem to save all the patches I chose. I might be my lack of knowledge or it may be the settings on the jv1010 at the point when i load the song ?

thanks
mike

Hello Mike..

I guess Cakewalk / Roland's own Sonar springs to mind.
There is a 'instrument definition' for the JV-1010, so patch names, and the necessary bank select messages should work, bare in mind any patches in the user memory you have added will not have the correct names.

Cubase uses 'device maps'. I wouldn't mind betting that such a thing is available for the JV-1010.
Logic Audio used environments.

I wasn't able to find much regarding Midisoft studio, do you have any info on it?
It may well do what you require, it's just a case of finding out how..

hello thanks for info.

ref midisoft studio software ive had it for a few yrs mainly using with pc soundcards in the past - dont kno if its meant specifically for on board pc soundcards but it seems to automatically pass by any internal soundcards once my jv 1010 is connected via my usb/midi connector which is ok for me cos i dont intedn to use my pc soundcard as it is poor quality. i cant see any settings option in the software to choose the internal soundcard or the usb connection to the jv1010 it just seems to go straight to the 1010 if its connected.

did find a link to download it which i did do even tho i already have it and it seems a safe source - see below

http://midisoft.craigedgar.com/

thanks again and if u find any more info on midisoft if u download it any advice would b appreciated. i will however prob get sonar

thansk
mike

hello ive downloaded trial version of sonar 7 before i buy. i cant find a way of finding the banks/presets for the jv1010, dont kno if its my lack of knowledge or if its the fact that sonar7 is too recent for the 1010. any advice would be appreciated

thanks

mike

It should be in there..

you the 'instrument definitions'.. perhaps it's missing from the demo version.
You can find lots of files here:
http://www.cakewalknet.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=21&Itemid=48#Roland

I have just shut down Sonar on my desktop. I'll try and write down the procedure to get a file loaded and working, but I'll have to try and sort it some time in the day.

hello thanks for info. ive found a definition file for the jv1010 on the net all workin fine - thanks for help